Company responds to power plant concerns

By FRANCISCO E. JIMENEZ
Staff Writer
reporter@sbnewspaper.com

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Many local residents are concerned about the possibility of a natural gas-powered, electricity-generating plant possibly being located at the old airport property in San Benito, and the company has issued a response.

“Over the past few weeks, numerous articles have been published by local newspapers concerning the Greenfield, Natural Gas Powered, Electric Generating Plant proposed to be built in the City of San Benito,” read a letter submitted by Peter Del Mastro, President of the Telemark Development Group.

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    • WeThePeople on September 8, 2013 at 2:13 pm
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    Still not convinced that a natural gas fired energy plant isn’t ‘Green Technology’? Well, folks in other parts of the state are very concerned about a plant coming to their neighborhood. Read my post above on environmental concerns and then consider this …
    In El Paso a group of over 200 residents, (Far East El Paso Citizens United), have come together to oppose the El Paso Electric Company’s plans to build a natural gas power plant. The residents fear that a range of air and water contaminants will have a negative impact on their community, hinder property values, create health problems and degrade the local environment.
    While the group has several arguments against the power plant, the proposed location is a big concern since it is near so many houses, people and schools. We have a similar situation here. Others within the group have expressed concerns about contributing to a drought in their community since significant amounts of water would be required for the plant to operate.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/us/in-texas-montana-vista-is-set-to-fight-power-plant.html

    http://www.txnewsfeed.com/amarillo/far-east-el-paso-residents-accuse-el-paso-electric-of-wasting-water-with-new/

    http://www.texastribune.org/2013/04/05/el-paso-power-plant-draws-community-opposition/

    • Reform San Benito on September 8, 2013 at 11:16 am
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    Why isn’t this letter to the community on company letterhead? What are they hiding?

      • El Menso on September 8, 2013 at 10:48 pm
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      There is No Company

      Telemark Development Group is a group of developers or brokers.

      There is a reason they picked the city of San Benito. They know the city is desperate for any kind of development and the commission and EDC will jump at anything and besides, 2014 is an election year. The city has a boarded up Stonewall Hotel, the thomae funeral home property being leased to the owner for a whole year. The city is being managed by an “On the Fly” management team of the City Commission, the EDC, the Housing Authority, and the School Board.

      All these people need to be replaced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1. Market Watch?

    • WeThePeople on September 1, 2013 at 12:48 pm
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    Thanks for your info RSB. As a follow up to my previous post, as I stated, the technology that is being proposed doesn’t appear to be state-of-the-art.. I was forwarded some interesting stuff recently which appears to be the real future of energy. Impressive …

    Since there is currently much ado in San Benito regarding power plants, the information below might be of interest to everyone, since the techology below appears to have a head start on the future of energy. Take a look at their customer base and view the 60 Minutes story ….

    http://www.bloomenergy.com/

    Built with a patented solid oxide fuel cell technology, Bloom’s Energy Server™ is a new class of distributed power generator, producing clean, reliable, affordable electricity at the customer site.

    Fuel cells are devices that convert fuel into electricity through a clean electro-chemical process rather than dirty combustion. They are like batteries except that they always run. Our particular type of fuel cell technology is different than legacy “hydrogen” fuel cells in three main ways:

    * Low cost materials – our cells use a common sand-like powder instead of precious metals like platinum or corrosive materials like acids.
    * High electrical efficiency – we can convert fuel into electricity at nearly twice the
    rate of some legacy technologies
    * Fuel flexibility – our systems are capable of using either renewable or fossil fuels
    Each Bloom Energy Server provides 200kW of power, enough to meet the baseload needs of 160 average homes or an office building… day and night, in roughly the footprint of a standard parking space. For more power, simply add more energy servers.

    Bloom Energy customers ….

    http://www.bloomenergy.com/customer-fuel-cell/

    60 Minutes story on Bloom

    Bloom Energy Server on 60 Minutes Segment Part 1

    http://youtu.be/BRAh4YemS0k

    Bloom Energy Server 60 minutes Segment Part 2

    • WeThePeople on August 31, 2013 at 3:03 pm
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    There a lot of issues with this company including their so-called green power plant. They have stated the plant will be ‘fired’ by natural gas. Natural gas is a fossil fuel that is often promoted as “cleaner” than coal, but which has its own serious health and environmental hazards. But don’t take my word for it …

    http://www.energyjustice.net/naturalgas

    http://www.environmentalhealth.ca/summer01gas.html

    http://www.keelynet.com/biology/natgas.htm

    Are we so desperate? Why not thoroughly investigate the company, the technology, and the long-term costs on the community??

    Does anyone remember Hydromold?? Or how about the short-lived bus company at the SB Industrial Park? How about the call center that resulted in the EDC purchase of that white-elephant of a building on the freeway?? What about the Kialegee Indian Tribe scam??

    Better do your homework people.

      • Reform San Benito on August 31, 2013 at 7:28 pm
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      WeThePeople, thank you for the links you have provided; enlightening. This particular link shows what can happen at any stage of the project:

      http://www.generalequipment.info/FRAME7.htm

      Why would these projects go so far as to purchase the power plant turbines and not follow through with the project? We all should be concerned with a project that starts but doesn’t get completed, leaving scars on our land with no one to hold accountable.

      On another note but similarly related, does anyone know how many residents of SB have been hired and currently work at the detention center at Dolly Vinsant? I see lots of vehicles there; how many residents from SB? Anyone know of family or friends employed there? Not from surrounding communities, but actually from SB. Just curious. We need to be mindful of companies promising to create jobs in our community but in actuality, bring in their own employees from elsewhere.

    1. Thanks for all the info but do you think it will change anything?

    • Reform San Benito on August 30, 2013 at 9:27 pm
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    HoJo, you choose “abstract thinking?” What does that mean? You choose to allow others to think for you? You will think in the theoretical? And if it doesn’t work out, then what? I’m sorry, I just don’t understand. Seems to me, now is the time to think. Everyone think. Think how this will improve each and every life in SB — or not. Calling something progress is not so if it doesn’t progress the majority forward. If it only progresses the interests of some at the expense of the majority, it is called special interest, not progress. I don’t understand this abstract thinking.

    1. It’s not my fault you have no interest in it.

    • Reform San Benito on August 30, 2013 at 4:54 pm
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    “I just want to go on living.” Living how?

    Like the power plant, I have questions on the distribution center that I’d like to know answers to, and hear the opinions of my fellow San Benitians. For instance:

    1) Will Telemark operate the distribution center or just build-to-suit for another company? If so, who? Who are the tenants who will be occupying and running the distribution center? Is some company already committed to this project or is its’ construction speculative?

    2) What types of jobs will be created? Aside from the obvious “order pickers” who will retrieve merchandise from shelves to fill orders, and custodial and maintenance personnel, are these minimum wage jobs or something better?

    3) A distribution center of the magnitude to create this many jobs will require a substantial increase in large truck traffic. Has the city considered and addressed this with Telemark? Has the city even considered and addressed this among themselves? The scrap metal trucks hauling to and from the collection yard have been increasingly passing through downtown. How will this influx of traffic impact those who “just want to go on living?” How will the increased traffic and noise and exhaust pollution impact the quality of life in our city?

    4) A distribution center implies the distribution of products. What types of products? What happens to the jobs if/when we enter into another prolonged recessionary period like we just experienced? What happens to the EB-5 investors if they can’t sustain the required number of jobs because of a recession — do they pull their funding altogether?

    5) Is Telemark willing to up its ante to provide greater power-producing capabilities in line with others around us? This is important for the long-term growth and needs of this community. In a recession, when products may not sell as people cut back, electricity will continue to sell and generate tax revenue. Holding out for a larger plant the likes of Harlingen, for example, will allow the producer to provide the city now and 40 years from now, while selling the excess wholesale in the interim.

    6) Is Telemark willing to sever the two projects, building the distribution center on half the acreage (85), while allowing the city to seek a power provider who will build something larger that will benefit the city longer-term?

    7) The above letter states, “the Power Plant facility will employ thirty-five (35) to forty-five (45) full time employees. The residents of San Benito will be offered employment first….” What the letter fails to state is that most, if not all, of those perspective employees need to be engineers. The operation of a power plant is highly technical and requires specialized training. Telemark may offer these highly technical positions to residents of SB, but I’m not aware of any out of work Power Plant Engineers in SB, or many Mechanical or Electrical Engineers, either. The truth is, almost all of the jobs at the power plant will come from outside SB. In Edinburg, where they will build a 700 MW plant, they are claiming it will require 35 employees – engineers.

    For those of you who “just want to go on living,” I ask you: Are you not concerned with the quality of life you will be living? Are you not concerned that the proposal set forth is more of a short term solution without thought to the needs of the city 30-40 years from now? Will not most of us still be alive 30-40 years from now – or our children and their children?

    The 150-200 jobs being discussed represent .6 to .8 percent of the total population of SB. That is less than 1% of the 25,000 residents of the city; a lower percentage still, if you figure that percentage based on the city administration’s estimate of 28,000+ actual inhabitants of SB, a figure they recently asserted is the truer number of citizens in their challenge to the latest Census.

    I commend the city’s commission, administration and the EDC for working together to bring this exciting opportunity to SB. But…I believe we can do better. Instead of bringing power to 170,000 homes with 171 acres, we can bring power to 700,000 homes with 80 acres – and still have enough land remaining for the best distribution center/transportation hub in South Texas — maybe all of Texas.

    I’m not taking anything away from Telemark, either. They are helping us to see our true potential, and I am personally grateful for their desire to want to join us in SB. Maybe the power plant can be postponed for 6-8 months while funding is sought to build a larger one. Maybe Telemark can start with the distribution center with a right of first refusal on the land while they and the city work together to find funding to build a power plant that will serve our greater need long-term.

    This is an exciting opportunity and a tremendous blueprint of what we can become. It would be a pity to squander this chance in the conceptual stages by not designing something that will keep us on even footing with our neighbors, or even greater than. The commission owes it to the people of this city to explore the possibilities another 6-8 months. We usually regret jumping into bed with the first person who comes along.

      • Coincidence on September 9, 2013 at 10:57 am
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      Your answer to number 4 is that the investor could care less whether the project succeeds or not long term. As long as he gets his green card, he’s happy.

      http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Federal-program-offers-investors-visas-and-a-lot-1685713.php

    • WeThePeople on August 29, 2013 at 8:56 pm
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    Prudent business owners wan to know …
    Is this company D&B rated? Has anyone seen personal financial statements of the principals? Why haven’t they made public any letters of recommendation from these other world-wide projects, as they have touted in the media and their correspondence?
    Do they have any bankers that might be able to vouch for them with lines of credit?
    Contrary to statements made to the press and their letter, the General Electric, Frame 7 is hardly the newest and greenest of technologies…1970’s technology, in fact.
    But don’ t take my word for it …go to GE and check it out …
    http://www.ge-energy.com/products_and_services/
    or visit here:
    http://www.pondlucier.com/peakpower/2011/10/17/peakingpower/black-start-chapter-eleven-the-long-awaited-frame-7/

    In fact, if you would like to buy a NEW GE FRAME 7EA GAS TURBINE POWER PLANT for your very own…make these people an offer …
    http://www.generalequipment.info/FRAME7.htm

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    “You’d be surprised what people will accept once you insist two or three times running that they have seen what you tell them they have seen.”
    ― Andrew Levkoff

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  2. I choose abstract thinking in this situation. I do not want what my neighbor’s have I just want to go on living.

    • Reform San Benito on August 29, 2013 at 6:28 pm
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    Like most of you, I agree that we need to attract more businesses and all the benefits that come along with them. This project will help. I just have several questions and I’d like to hear your thoughts on them.

    1) Brownsville is planning an 800 megawatt (MW) plant. Harlingen 690 MW; Edinburg 700 MW plant. Why are we planning only a 170 MW plant? Isn’t anyone concerned that our plant will be almost obsolete in the design phase?

    2) Harlingen is building their 690 MW plant on an 80-acre site. Are we realizing the full potential and maximizing optimal return for the city on the 171-acres dedicated for this project?

    3) The Harlingen plant will cost a little over $500 Million to build. Previous reports claimed that the SB plant project will cost $225M. For a little more than twice the investment, Harlingen will receive 4 times the electricity. Does this sound like a good investment to you?

    4) Have our elected officials done their due diligence in seeking out alternative prospective companies who might be willing to build something more in line with what neighboring cities are building, that will create more jobs and generate greater tax revenue? Or, are our elected officials just grabbing the first offer that comes along?

    We here in SB are always complaining how our neighboring cities are growing when we can’t even get our streets paved. Isn’t this more of the same short-sighted planning that never allows us to grow and keep pace with our neighbors?

    Sure, we can accept this deal as is and call it progress. But is it really progress when we look at our closest neighbor and see that they’re building a project that will provide 4 times what we will realize for a little more than twice the cost on less than half the prime SB real estate? To me, this doesn’t seem like progress. It seems like planning to take two steps backwards.

    We deserve better, my fellow citizens. But that’s just my humble opinion. Would like to hear yours.

    • DelaSera on August 29, 2013 at 5:05 pm
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    The letter spells it out. I have no concerns, OSHA and govt is involved for safety, We cant have casinos for revenue, but this is better. More businesses will pop up and more development will occur on that side of town. Nothing is there that attracts folks. Restaurants will benefit as well as housing developers, More tax revenue not only for the city but for the ISD. Hope it works out. SB needs a boost.

    • El Menso on August 28, 2013 at 4:35 pm
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    Telemark Development Group is nothing more than a group of initial investors who get developers and the deep pockets together to build and once it is done, they collect their money and off they go to the next city.

    Don’t all for all this mumbo jumbo malarkey!

      • El Menso on August 28, 2013 at 6:44 pm
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      Correction:

      Don’t “fall” for all this mumbo jumbo malarkey!

  3. I tried goggling the owners manual and could not find it. The plant is only as good as the people who build it and finally run it in a safely manner. I am sure osha and federal employees may be on board permanently . 100-200 permeant jobs is what SB needs. Economic and employment longevity. Now lets try to figure out what can be build at the old CP&L power plant. Hopefully something that will bring more jobs . I am still waiting for a Toyota plant or Volkswagen plant. Make use from trip to China think back was there anything that can be remembered after the sound of the loud Gong!

      • WeThePeople on August 29, 2013 at 9:36 am
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      If San Benito expects 100-200 permanent jobs from this venture, they are chasing rainbows. Chinagate?
      If you believe the trip to China cost the City $2,000, then I have a bridge I’d like to sell you. Even at that, what was the point except a vacation for City officials and their wives? Oddly there were no pictures of the entourage being greeted by Chinese officials, State dinners, and so on. I believe there was one single picture floated around by the media. Is this town gullible or what?

      1. I know what you mean by chasing rainbows but I would rather think of it more like changing lanes. San Benito is moving forward and trying to create jobs I see nothing unrealistic about it . The past trip to china could still hold the key for some investment in innovative companies from China to share in the wealth the United States has to offer. The U.S offers federal level program for companies who wish in invest in the United States. There is future changes the U.S and it’s people are constantly asking for new inventions and technologies in the energy (solar ) and (eco-friendly ) automotive arenas. The best is yet to come we just need to think and build from the ground up.

        I have a few model 1840 frigate’s that remind me how far our Country has come in discoveries . I never taught about model bridges. I maybe be interested, bridges are fascinating structures come to think of it.

    • WeThePeople on August 28, 2013 at 10:25 am
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    If one does an extensive ‘Google’ search on ‘Telemark Development Group’, related companies and the individual principals there is not a lot on their resumes that I see, much less “projects in both North and South America and Southeast Asia”.
    My search did not find a lot of big monies behind any of the several corporations related to this company. Having a web site and a business card is one thing, having a track record is yet another.
    The EB-5 visa process that was touted in their first presentation has taken a back seat now? Have we seen any personal financial statements of the principals yet:?
    If someone can find something on the internet that I am not finding, please post it here.
    IMHO, we still need a healthy dose of skepticism before the City goes chasing rainbows, again .

      • Coincidence on September 9, 2013 at 10:54 am
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      Here is the reason the EB-5 visa has taken a back seat:

      http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Federal-program-offers-investors-visas-and-a-lot-1685713.php

      It has become a way for the wealthy to gain US visas and green cards. They could care less if the investment project succeeds or not.

    • Sanbenitofan44 on August 27, 2013 at 11:54 pm
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    So what’s the problem?
    Plenty of cities have power plants heck didn’t we San Benito have one in the heart of our city for quite a long time and now we’re concerned about a “natural gas” power plant by the old city airport?
    If they can create jobs and bring in business for San Benito I’m all for it.
    Its time San Benito grow like other valley cities.

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